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Curly-Coated Retriever vs Irish Red and White Setter

Side-by-side comparison across all 14 AKC trait ratings, with a clear verdict on which breed fits which kind of household.

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The bottom line

Curly-Coated Retriever vs Irish Red and White Setter

You don’t see these two side by side often, but if you’re torn, you’re probably an active person who loves the idea of a smart, athletic dog that’s both a hunter and a family companion. The Curly-Coated Retriever and Irish Red and White Setter share that spark. loyal, energetic, and built for adventure. but they wear it differently. The Curly is the stoic strategist. At 60 to 95 pounds, he’s built like a swimmer with a brain to match. His tight, waterproof curls shed little, making him a solid choice if you’re on the water weekly or live where it’s damp and cold. He’s confident to the point of aloofness with strangers, and while he adores his family, he won’t smother you. He’s happiest when he has a job, like retrieving ducks or covering ground in thick cover. But don’t be fooled by his quiet pride. he’s not for first-time owners. He needs someone who can lead with consistency and keep his mind engaged. The Irish Red and White Setter? She’s the joyful poet of the field. Lighter, at 35 to 60 pounds, she dances through the grass like she’s part of the breeze. Her coat is silky, not curly, and while it doesn’t shed much, it demands brushing. She’s more adaptable than the Curly, thriving in homes with active routines but also adjusting better to different environments. She’s eager to please, trains like a dream, and bonds deeply with kids and adults alike. Here’s the real difference: the Curly respects you. The Setter loves you wildly. If you want a focused partner for serious outdoor work and don’t mind a little reserve, go Curly. If you want a bright, bouncy companion who’ll hunt all day and cuddle all night, pick the Red and White. And here’s the truth no one says: both are rare for a reason. They’re not easy. But if you’ve got the time and the terrain, they’re unforgettable.

Curly-Coated Retriever
Irish Red and White Setter
23–27 in
Height
22.5–26 in
60–95 lb
Weight
35–60 lb
10–12 yr
Lifespan
11–15 yr
$1.5–3.5k
Puppy price
$1.5–3.0k
#162
AKC popularity
#146

Trait-by-trait

Higher bar = more of that trait. Shedding, barking, drooling, grooming flipped for readability.
Affectionate w/ Family
Good with Young Children
Good with Other Dogs
Shedding Level
Coat Grooming
Drooling Level
Good with Strangers
Playfulness
Watchdog / Protective
Adaptability
Trainability
Energy Level
Barking Level
Mental Stimulation Needs
AffectionGood w/ KidsGood w/ DogsShedding LevelGroomingDrooling LevelGood w/ StrangersPlayfulnessProtectiveAdaptabilityTrainabilityEnergy LevelBarking LevelMental Stim.
Curly-Coated Retriever Irish Red and White Setter
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Where they diverge

Good with Other Dogs
Irish Red and White Setter is better with other dogs (2-point difference)
Irish
Good with Strangers
Irish Red and White Setter is friendlier with strangers (2-point difference)
Irish
Coat Grooming
Curly-Coated Retriever needs less grooming (1-point difference)
Curly-Coated
Drooling Level
Curly-Coated Retriever drools less (1-point difference)
Curly-Coated
Playfulness
Curly-Coated Retriever is more playful (1-point difference)
Curly-Coated
The verdict

Choose the Curly-Coated Retriever if…

  • Active families
  • Hunters and waterfowlers
  • Cold and wet climates
  • You value playfulnessCurly-Coated Retriever scores noticeably higher.

Choose the Irish Red and White Setter if…

  • Hunters
  • Active families
  • Outdoors enthusiasts
  • You value good with other dogsIrish Red and White Setter scores higher here.
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Everything you need before bringing your Curly-Coated Retriever home.
Breed variants, breeder red flags, and what to ask
First-week checklist and daily schedules by age
Training timeline from 8 weeks to adulthood
Health screenings, emergency card, and feeding portions
Grooming schedule, first-year costs, and what nobody tells you
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Irish Red and White Setter Owner’s Guide
Everything you need before bringing your Irish Red and White Setter home.
Breed variants, breeder red flags, and what to ask
First-week checklist and daily schedules by age
Training timeline from 8 weeks to adulthood
Health screenings, emergency card, and feeding portions
Grooming schedule, first-year costs, and what nobody tells you
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