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Irish Red and White Setter vs Newfoundland

Side-by-side comparison across all 14 AKC trait ratings, with a clear verdict on which breed fits which kind of household.

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Irish Red and White Setter vs Newfoundland

You don’t see these two breeds compared much, but when you do, it’s usually someone charmed by both their gentle expressions and family-friendly reputations. On paper, they’re both big-hearted, kid-tolerant dogs with feathered coats and Irish or coastal roots. But that’s where the similarity ends. Choosing between an Irish Red and White Setter and a Newfoundland isn’t just preference. it’s lifestyle. The Setter is a spring-loaded athlete, built for covering miles in the field. At 35 to 60 pounds, they’re agile, fast, and wired for action. You’ll need daily runs, training sessions, and space to burn that 5/5 energy. They’re smart, biddable, and thrive in dog sports or hunting homes. Their coat is lower maintenance than it looks. moderate shedding, easy care. but don’t expect a couch potato. They’ll adapt to suburban life if exercised, but they won’t tolerate boredom. The Newfoundland, meanwhile, is a 150-pound softie built like a draft horse. They move slow, bark less, and live to love. Bred to pull nets and rescue drowning sailors, they’re calm, steady, and deeply devoted. But that size comes with trade-offs: a shorter 9 to 10-year lifespan, serious health risks like bloat and hip issues, and a coat that sheds heavily twice a year. They’re fine with moderate activity, but hot weather and tight spaces are nightmares. Here’s what the data won’t tell you: the Setter will outlive the Newfoundland by five years, and that gap hurts when you’re attached. If you want a long-term adventure partner who’s always ready, go Setter. If you want a patient, drooly guardian for young kids and don’t mind grooming fur off your couch, the Newfie’s your gentle giant. Pick based on how much dog. you really want to live with.

Irish Red and White Setter
Newfoundland
22.5–26 in
Height
26–28 in
35–60 lb
Weight
100–150 lb
11–15 yr
Lifespan
9–10 yr
$1.5–3.0k
Puppy price
$2.5–5.0k
#146
AKC popularity
#40

Trait-by-trait

Higher bar = more of that trait. Shedding, barking, drooling, grooming flipped for readability.
Affectionate w/ Family
Good with Young Children
Good with Other Dogs
Shedding Level
Coat Grooming
Drooling Level
Good with Strangers
Playfulness
Watchdog / Protective
Adaptability
Trainability
Energy Level
Barking Level
Mental Stimulation Needs
AffectionGood w/ KidsGood w/ DogsShedding LevelGroomingDrooling LevelGood w/ StrangersPlayfulnessProtectiveAdaptabilityTrainabilityEnergy LevelBarking LevelMental Stim.
Irish Red and White Setter Newfoundland
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Where they diverge

Drooling Level
Irish Red and White Setter drools less (3-point difference)
Irish
Watchdog / Protective
Newfoundland is more protective (2-point difference)
Newfoundland
Trainability
Irish Red and White Setter is easier to train (2-point difference)
Irish
Energy Level
Irish Red and White Setter has more energy (2-point difference)
Irish
Barking Level
Newfoundland barks less (2-point difference)
Newfoundland
The verdict

Choose the Irish Red and White Setter if…

  • Hunters
  • Active families
  • Outdoors enthusiasts
  • You value trainabilityIrish Red and White Setter scores noticeably higher.

Choose the Newfoundland if…

  • Families with children
  • Water and outdoor enthusiasts
  • Those wanting a gentle giant
  • You value drooling levelNewfoundland scores higher here.
Irish Red and White Setter Owner’s Guide
Everything you need before bringing your Irish Red and White Setter home.
Breed variants, breeder red flags, and what to ask
First-week checklist and daily schedules by age
Training timeline from 8 weeks to adulthood
Health screenings, emergency card, and feeding portions
Grooming schedule, first-year costs, and what nobody tells you
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Newfoundland Owner’s Guide
Everything you need before bringing your Newfoundland home.
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First-week checklist and daily schedules by age
Training timeline from 8 weeks to adulthood
Health screenings, emergency card, and feeding portions
Grooming schedule, first-year costs, and what nobody tells you
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